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	<title>Comments on: ChristianChirp: Why I&#8217;m Not A Christian.. if that&#8217;s what it means (part 3)</title>
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		<title>By: Tony from Pandora</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2417</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony from Pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a &#039;preview&#039; button.  The comment &quot;now how will this really help anything concerning the ACLU&#039;s perceived attitude toward Christianity&quot; was mine the rest was the email.  Sorry for the confusion!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a &#8216;preview&#8217; button.  The comment &#8220;now how will this really help anything concerning the ACLU&#8217;s perceived attitude toward Christianity&#8221; was mine the rest was the email.  Sorry for the confusion!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony from Pandora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony from Pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was an email I got today...

   Want to have some fun this CHRISTMAS? Send the ACLU a CHRISTMAS CARD this year.
  As they are working so very hard to get rid of the CHRISTMAS part of this holiday,
we should all send them a nice, CHRISTIAN card to brighten up their dark, sad, little world...
   For those of you who aren&#039;t aware of them, the ACLU, (the American Civil Liberties Union) is the one suing the U.S. Government to take God, Christmas or anything
Christian away from us. Help put Christ back in Christmas!
    Make sure the card you send says &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; on it.  And get a religious stamp to put on it also.
    Here&#039;s the address, just don&#039;t be rude or crude. (It&#039;s not the Christian way, you know.)
 
  ACLU
 125 Broad Street
 18th Floor
  New York , NY 10004



Now how will this really help anything concerning the ACLU&#039;s perceived attitude toward Christianity?
 
Two tons of Christmas cards would freeze their operations because they wouldn&#039;t know
if any were regular mail containing contributions. So spend 44 cents and tell the
ACLU to leave Christmas alone. Also tell them that there is no such thing as a
&quot;Holiday Tree&quot;. . .  It&#039;s always been called a CHRISTMAS TREE!
 
And pass this on to your email lists. We really want to communicate with the ACLU!
They really DESERVE us!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an email I got today&#8230;</p>
<p>   Want to have some fun this CHRISTMAS? Send the ACLU a CHRISTMAS CARD this year.<br />
  As they are working so very hard to get rid of the CHRISTMAS part of this holiday,<br />
we should all send them a nice, CHRISTIAN card to brighten up their dark, sad, little world&#8230;<br />
   For those of you who aren&#8217;t aware of them, the ACLU, (the American Civil Liberties Union) is the one suing the U.S. Government to take God, Christmas or anything<br />
Christian away from us. Help put Christ back in Christmas!<br />
    Make sure the card you send says &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; on it.  And get a religious stamp to put on it also.<br />
    Here&#8217;s the address, just don&#8217;t be rude or crude. (It&#8217;s not the Christian way, you know.)</p>
<p>  ACLU<br />
 125 Broad Street<br />
 18th Floor<br />
  New York , NY 10004</p>
<p>Now how will this really help anything concerning the ACLU&#8217;s perceived attitude toward Christianity?</p>
<p>Two tons of Christmas cards would freeze their operations because they wouldn&#8217;t know<br />
if any were regular mail containing contributions. So spend 44 cents and tell the<br />
ACLU to leave Christmas alone. Also tell them that there is no such thing as a<br />
&#8220;Holiday Tree&#8221;. . .  It&#8217;s always been called a CHRISTMAS TREE!</p>
<p>And pass this on to your email lists. We really want to communicate with the ACLU!<br />
They really DESERVE us!!</p>
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		<title>By: Misty</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>Misty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

Awesome series of blogs. This has been a fixation of mine for some time... the way Christians do this sort of thing. Honestly, so many Christians these days are simply Pharisees. And I&#039;ve actually said in the past that I wished there were something else to call myself because I do not want to be associated with some of the people that are calling themselves Christians. This isn&#039;t to say that they dont&#039; mean well... but it just seems like so many people are sheep... following whatever they are told that Christians should follow... never considering what Jesus says about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Awesome series of blogs. This has been a fixation of mine for some time&#8230; the way Christians do this sort of thing. Honestly, so many Christians these days are simply Pharisees. And I&#8217;ve actually said in the past that I wished there were something else to call myself because I do not want to be associated with some of the people that are calling themselves Christians. This isn&#8217;t to say that they dont&#8217; mean well&#8230; but it just seems like so many people are sheep&#8230; following whatever they are told that Christians should follow&#8230; never considering what Jesus says about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2411</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin:  This post resonates with me for the same reason that your song &quot;Safe&quot; does - the rejection of idea that we should cloister ourselves in our safe, warm, family-approved churches/schools/websites, alienating ourselves from the culture we are supposed to be engaged with.  

For me the question is about how big we are inviting God to be in our reality.  He is a big God - big enough to be present in our sanctuaries as well as our bars.  The more we invite him into those places and seek him out in the art, music, film and other culture of our day, the bigger he will become in our lives.

By the way, this tribute to Radiohead&#039;s &quot;OK Computer&quot; is excellent:  http://stereogum.com/okx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin:  This post resonates with me for the same reason that your song &#8220;Safe&#8221; does &#8211; the rejection of idea that we should cloister ourselves in our safe, warm, family-approved churches/schools/websites, alienating ourselves from the culture we are supposed to be engaged with.  </p>
<p>For me the question is about how big we are inviting God to be in our reality.  He is a big God &#8211; big enough to be present in our sanctuaries as well as our bars.  The more we invite him into those places and seek him out in the art, music, film and other culture of our day, the bigger he will become in our lives.</p>
<p>By the way, this tribute to Radiohead&#8217;s &#8220;OK Computer&#8221; is excellent:  <a href="http://stereogum.com/okx" rel="nofollow">http://stereogum.com/okx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Berkeley</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2407</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J:  Running smack into this issue, using Jesus&#039; own words but in a bolder manner than i&#039;ve heard recently...check out Tim Keller&#039;s new book &quot;Prodigal God&quot;.  He goes as far to say that it&#039;s the christian separtists and rule keepers that have the most difficult time having an authentic relationship with God because they work so hard to become their own Saviours.  Most interesting stuff.  s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J:  Running smack into this issue, using Jesus&#8217; own words but in a bolder manner than i&#8217;ve heard recently&#8230;check out Tim Keller&#8217;s new book &#8220;Prodigal God&#8221;.  He goes as far to say that it&#8217;s the christian separtists and rule keepers that have the most difficult time having an authentic relationship with God because they work so hard to become their own Saviours.  Most interesting stuff.  s</p>
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		<title>By: Tony from Pandora</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2406</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony from Pandora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s &#039;Twitter&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s &#8216;Twitter&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve in Berkeley</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2404</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve in Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell....or Justin McRoberts for that matter ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell&#8230;.or Justin McRoberts for that matter <img src='http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2403</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kev,

I am actually re-reading a collection of the sayings of the Desert Fathers (as opposed to the Dessert Fathers... whole other thing) and thinking about that topic as well. The monks practice disciplines that necessitated absence from mainstream culture BUT their practice of those disciplines benefits the mainstream culture as they learn things about humanity and our relationship to God that are otherwise unknowable; all of this is why they write down these things.  

While I can&#039;t speak for the creators or users at ChristianChirp, I&#039;ll go out on a limb and postulate their motives aren&#039;t quite as altruistic nor as well thought out as those of St. Anthony, Poemen or even Thomas Merton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev,</p>
<p>I am actually re-reading a collection of the sayings of the Desert Fathers (as opposed to the Dessert Fathers&#8230; whole other thing) and thinking about that topic as well. The monks practice disciplines that necessitated absence from mainstream culture BUT their practice of those disciplines benefits the mainstream culture as they learn things about humanity and our relationship to God that are otherwise unknowable; all of this is why they write down these things.  </p>
<p>While I can&#8217;t speak for the creators or users at ChristianChirp, I&#8217;ll go out on a limb and postulate their motives aren&#8217;t quite as altruistic nor as well thought out as those of St. Anthony, Poemen or even Thomas Merton.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D. Hendricks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin D. Hendricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, Justin. 

Though in thinking about Christians that purposefully exclude themselves from culture, I wonder how the monastic movement and early Christian hermits would fit with this type of exclusion. Very different contexts, of course, but it&#039;s an interesting comparison. Christians have been excluding themselves from culture since the early church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, Justin. </p>
<p>Though in thinking about Christians that purposefully exclude themselves from culture, I wonder how the monastic movement and early Christian hermits would fit with this type of exclusion. Very different contexts, of course, but it&#8217;s an interesting comparison. Christians have been excluding themselves from culture since the early church.</p>
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		<title>By: Tess Mallory</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2009/11/christianchirp-why-im-not-a-christian-if-thats-what-it-means-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-2399</link>
		<dc:creator>Tess Mallory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a wonderful blog and sooooo true. Thanks for standing up for the true heart of Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a wonderful blog and sooooo true. Thanks for standing up for the true heart of Christianity.</p>
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