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	<title>Comments on: Sacred and Profane (Through Songs I Was First Undone, Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.justinmcroberts.com/blog/2010/02/sacred-and-profane-through-songs-i-was-first-undone-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-2560</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, thank you yet again for your gift to us!  I loved the CD so much I immediately got one each for my kids.  I love your perspective and how you communicate truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, thank you yet again for your gift to us!  I loved the CD so much I immediately got one each for my kids.  I love your perspective and how you communicate truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, man. I&#039;d not heard of Peter Hitchens.  His conversion has to be a very interesting subject at family gatherings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, man. I&#8217;d not heard of Peter Hitchens.  His conversion has to be a very interesting subject at family gatherings.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Okimoto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Okimoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hopefully you get notifications of comments and you&#039;ll get to see this.  Because I think my comment fits best on this post.

No doubt you know who Christopher Hitchens is.  Have you heard of his brother, Peter Hitchens?  He is a reporter/writer that is a christian.  He has written a book that will be released next month, I believe, and I&#039;ve seen some videos (http://vimeo.com/10354237) and read interviews about his book and him in general.  His conversion to christianity was initiated by viewing a piece of art (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Judgment_%28Rogier_van_der_Weyden%29).  Granted, it was a &#039;religious&#039; painting, and not &#039;secular&#039; art.  But he saw that piece of artwork, and it shook his foundations.  It unsettled him.  He was undone by the art.  And it lead to him accepting Christ as Saviour.

I thought it was a great story, and I thought it was especially relevant to your project here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hopefully you get notifications of comments and you&#8217;ll get to see this.  Because I think my comment fits best on this post.</p>
<p>No doubt you know who Christopher Hitchens is.  Have you heard of his brother, Peter Hitchens?  He is a reporter/writer that is a christian.  He has written a book that will be released next month, I believe, and I&#8217;ve seen some videos (<a href="http://vimeo.com/10354237" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/10354237</a>) and read interviews about his book and him in general.  His conversion to christianity was initiated by viewing a piece of art (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Judgment_%28Rogier_van_der_Weyden%29" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Judgment_%28Rogier_van_der_Weyden%29</a>).  Granted, it was a &#8216;religious&#8217; painting, and not &#8216;secular&#8217; art.  But he saw that piece of artwork, and it shook his foundations.  It unsettled him.  He was undone by the art.  And it lead to him accepting Christ as Saviour.</p>
<p>I thought it was a great story, and I thought it was especially relevant to your project here.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Frost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely loved this album! Tom Waits, the Stones, the amazing Aimee Mann and the Smiths are all favorites of mine, but I gotta love that you slipped George Michael and Depeche Mode in there. Inspired song choices. Thanks so much for sharing these sacred moments with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely loved this album! Tom Waits, the Stones, the amazing Aimee Mann and the Smiths are all favorites of mine, but I gotta love that you slipped George Michael and Depeche Mode in there. Inspired song choices. Thanks so much for sharing these sacred moments with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Chipmunk Punk on vinyl. Still! The album is wonderful, Justin. 

My sacred/profane line started blurring about the same time I read Simplicity by Mark Salomon (which, in turn, encouraged me to read Addicted to Mediocrity by Frankie Schaeffer) and I wondered &quot;Am I really better off because I smashed all my &#039;secular&#039; CDs in college?&quot; Sure, maybe Dr. Dre&#039;s &quot;The Chronic&quot; didn&#039;t set my mind on things above, but other albums used to take me to another place...

I finally saw Michael Jackson&#039;s &quot;This is It&quot; a few weeks ago and all I wanted to do for the next week was listen to &quot;Human Nature&quot; over and over and over again. That&#039;s what great art does</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Chipmunk Punk on vinyl. Still! The album is wonderful, Justin. </p>
<p>My sacred/profane line started blurring about the same time I read Simplicity by Mark Salomon (which, in turn, encouraged me to read Addicted to Mediocrity by Frankie Schaeffer) and I wondered &#8220;Am I really better off because I smashed all my &#8216;secular&#8217; CDs in college?&#8221; Sure, maybe Dr. Dre&#8217;s &#8220;The Chronic&#8221; didn&#8217;t set my mind on things above, but other albums used to take me to another place&#8230;</p>
<p>I finally saw Michael Jackson&#8217;s &#8220;This is It&#8221; a few weeks ago and all I wanted to do for the next week was listen to &#8220;Human Nature&#8221; over and over and over again. That&#8217;s what great art does</p>
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		<title>By: D'artagnan</title>
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		<dc:creator>D'artagnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 13:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Jacques Maritan&#039;s -Art and Scholasticism- &quot;If you want to make a Christian work, then be Christian, and simply try to make a beautiful work, into which your heart will pass; do not try to &quot;make Christian.&quot;
http://www2.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/etext/art8.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Jacques Maritan&#8217;s -Art and Scholasticism- &#8220;If you want to make a Christian work, then be Christian, and simply try to make a beautiful work, into which your heart will pass; do not try to &#8220;make Christian.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www2.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/etext/art8.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www2.nd.edu/Departments/Maritain/etext/art8.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Katie V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got the CD today. The NIN cover remains the biggest surprise. It&#039;s all good, brudda, all good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the CD today. The NIN cover remains the biggest surprise. It&#8217;s all good, brudda, all good.</p>
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		<title>By: jefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call on the Glen Phillips... I remember Toad the Wet Sprocket, but didn&#039;t know he did some solo stuff and had to check it out. Winter Pays for Summer is an amazing album.

I read a lot of Schaeffer in the early, formative days of my faith and have always been troubled by the whole dichotomy between the &quot;sacred&quot; and &quot;secular&quot;.  It seems some times the church is saying we want to love people like Jesus did, but only if they act like us and behave.  And on another level, it&#039;s a tragedy to music and the arts.  There are Christians who will never experience Glen Phillips or Bob Dylan because they&#039;re not labeled as &quot;Christian&quot;, and conversely people outside the church who may never hear Rich Mullins, Derek Webb or yourself because we pigeonhole everything into these categories. It&#039;s pretty lame.

I always keep in mind a line I remember from Rich Mullins: &quot;they will say kids need to know about Jesus so they won&#039;t smoke, drink, or dance, or go with girls that do, and all that kind of thing. And I kinda go, &#039;That&#039;s not why people need to know about Jesus. The only reason—the only possible excuse for talking about Jesus is because we need a Savior.&#039;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call on the Glen Phillips&#8230; I remember Toad the Wet Sprocket, but didn&#8217;t know he did some solo stuff and had to check it out. Winter Pays for Summer is an amazing album.</p>
<p>I read a lot of Schaeffer in the early, formative days of my faith and have always been troubled by the whole dichotomy between the &#8220;sacred&#8221; and &#8220;secular&#8221;.  It seems some times the church is saying we want to love people like Jesus did, but only if they act like us and behave.  And on another level, it&#8217;s a tragedy to music and the arts.  There are Christians who will never experience Glen Phillips or Bob Dylan because they&#8217;re not labeled as &#8220;Christian&#8221;, and conversely people outside the church who may never hear Rich Mullins, Derek Webb or yourself because we pigeonhole everything into these categories. It&#8217;s pretty lame.</p>
<p>I always keep in mind a line I remember from Rich Mullins: &#8220;they will say kids need to know about Jesus so they won&#8217;t smoke, drink, or dance, or go with girls that do, and all that kind of thing. And I kinda go, &#8216;That&#8217;s not why people need to know about Jesus. The only reason—the only possible excuse for talking about Jesus is because we need a Savior.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Evidence of a Colorful Youth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evidence of a Colorful Youth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my first post about the new album, I mentioned my early work as an artist in a neighborhood KISS cover band.  I wanted to leave no [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-02-13 &#124; The 'K' is not silent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sacred and Profane (Through Songs I Was First Undone, Part 1) (tags: article blog justinmcroberts music culture) [...]</description>
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